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FOR THOSE THAT SAW GARETH IN NEPAL


We are hoping that all the people that either saw or spoke to Gareth will leave their personal recollections here. I have written to all those people who have been in contact with us during the last four months and have asked them to simply leave some personal reminder of their contact with Gareth.
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Hi !

We already published the story about the contact to Gareth in Nepal on several Internet - Websites and newsgroups:

Me and my girlfriend saw Gareth in a lodge in Chukhung at 7th March. We had dinner together in the lodge and saw Gareth leaving the lodge on the 8th March at about 9 a.m.

He said, that he had much time left until his flight back to ktm, but he wanted to go back in the direction of namche bazar.

We saw him leaving the lodge in the direction of namche bazar. That was the last time we saw him. We were alone in the lodge for at least 4 hours until another british trekker arrived. He climbed Chukhung Tse and spent the next night in the lodge in Chukhung.
Perhaps he met Gareth on the way between Dingboche and Chukhung ?
We spent another 2 rest days in Chukhung but no other persons were in the lodge at night.

I hope, we could help.

Best wishes,

Carsten and Jana
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The Spring of 2005 ?? (re: For those that saw Gareth in Nepal)


I have taken the liberty of posting a question on the busy YetiZone trekkersboard, in view of possible future chances re. finding new people who can report having seen Gareth whilst out there in '04.

No reasons why I wouldn't post that question & my thoughts about it, here as well:

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What are "THE ODDS" ?

Please help thinking, those of you experienced in going to the Khumbu/Sagarmatha Parc. It's about Gareth.
WHAT ARE THE ODDS, if any, that the SAME foreign trekkers who were in Nepal (Kathmandu -> Lukla -> Namche -> upwards, and back again) between end of February and the course of March '04,
WILL GO BACK THERE sometime that period in 2005? Or will at least go back to Nepal next Spring?

1.
Is the majority of who WERE there then, a matter of occasional Khumbu-trekkers, who will not return a year later?
2.
Will a reasonable number of them RETURN more or less exactly a year later?
3.
What is YOUR estimate of the chances that trekkers who WERE there in '04 and who may have seen or met with Gareth Koch either before the morning of Monday, March 8 or later, HAVE NO IDEA YET of the fact he went MISSING?
4.
Are there any estimates as to the NATIONALITY of those who are most likely to re-visit the area again, almost exactly a year later?


Just thinking aloud. And considering that I read so many stories everywhere of Nepal-enthusiasts who really seem to go back there once a year. Some even twice.

And wondering if there would be any LOGIC in assuming you'll have a PART of your original Febr/March '04-public back there in Febr/March '05.
For if that expectation would be realistic, it MIGHT make sense to prepare another campaign to focus on his disappearance, this time f.e. including putting up searchposters with several pictures of him, calling specifically for attention of 2004- trekkers and STARTING in the arrivals-hall of the Kathmandu Airport (or whatever the situation is like there, in their buildings). And so on.

Please don't hit me. I think by fár not enough trekkers (who were out there back then) are made aware of this "case" yet. Looking back on the actions that have been undertaken to find people who could tell about him and find clues, it seems many people haven't exactly "sat back". But the efforts haven't been enough. Can 2005 mean a new chance on reaching new "eye witnesses": people who can report having seen him, nót only but especially on or after March 8?

He can't just have "disappeared" on that morning. It doesn't make sense. Not when all he intended was walking from Chukhung to Dingboche. It wasn't crowded there, but if there were other trekkers they must have seen him after 9:00 a.m. that morning. Question: are they aware he is missing, and will they recognise him from photos? And REPORT!

There are simply too many reportings meanwhile (in logs and travelboards, posted long after March) of people who say they saw the searchposters, and comment things like "he probably went in alone and got lost". It means they have no idea and never heard about the case in the previous months, and imo it means there must be a number of trekkers who did see Gareth, but DON'T KNOW he went missing.


==> daviko@ntlworld.com (email address of Gareth's father)


The post has a link to the "LITH" website: Lost in Nepal: British trekker Gareth Koch
and includes Gareth's picture with the URL http://www.garethkochlostinnepal.co.uk/gk1.jpg

I'm interested to hear your views.

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Thanks mieke for the posting and we are 100% certain that there is someone out there who has information about Gareth and what happened to him on or after the 8th March.

It is just a matter of contacting that person or for that person to be aware that Gareth is missing.

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How many male British were granted visas for Nepal in March 2004?

Can the Carstens give more description of the British Trekker? Has he been traced already? His age, what was he wearing and carrying?

If there is visas required he can quickly be traced by a process of elimination. If they (The nepal administration) are willing to help.



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quote:

K3vin wrote:

How many male British were granted visas for Nepal in March 2004?

Can the Carstens give more description of the British Trekker? Has he been traced already? His age, what was he wearing and carrying?

If there is visas required he can quickly be traced by a process of elimination. If they (The nepal administration) are willing to help.




Exactly my points too, ever since 2004!

Problem is though, this is all about Nepal
and not about, for example, the Swiss Alps...
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From what I've read here, there would also be the "sign in" book for the Khumbu region.

David, did you get to see Gareths 'sign in' and was it possible to to note from that book all the people trekking in the region at the time?

Obviously you have done all this before, it's not as if I'm suggesting something that hasn't been looked at, I am just curious to know what the outcome was of looking at the regions sign in book. Because it would be the first place to start to contact all those that were in the region at the time.
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My partner and I have recently completed an extended trek from Jiri, through the Kumbu and adjacent areas, and out through Lukla.
We became aware of the tragic disappearance of Gareth Koch on reading a Trekkers Intention Book in Thame, NW of Namche B. This book was being used, and did have recent entries to Oct 2008. Our thoughts were with Gareth's parents on reading the details of his very sad disappearance.
I can only say that there are now very many tourists all over this region, no Maoist remnants (painted hammer-&-sickle icons exist, one painted on a Mani stone!, the red flag still flies in some parts, & change of Gov), and trekking in this region would appear to be very safe. There were solo trekkers & trekkers without guides & porters - we did not hear of any negative events. However, as in all remote areas, one has to always be alert to altitude & environmental hazards and local bad characters.
One thing that struck us immediately on reading the Trekkers Intention Book were the several references to travelling companion, Ian Napier, in the Forward. These books are in current use - I would suggest these references are now inappropriate, and legally challengeable. In a Book intended for future use, these remarks do not now add anything to either the Tragedy or the Intention of the Book.
Regards Rick


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Rick,

Thanks for the posting and the update on the current climate in Nepal. The reason that Gareth's companion is named in the TIB is that Gareth's family were and are still extremely upset by the way they were treated by him (I will not go into details here)

Ian Napier was always given the opportunity to explain on this site his story of events but refused to do so and the facts we had/have are recorded in the TIB.

These facts are true and so they appear in the TIB, if the authors of this book do not wish these comments to remain then they have the right to remove them.


The Koch Family
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